The Godhead Debate
By Frank Hilton • ©Word-Spirit • All Rights Reserved.

Act 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.

Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Col 2:9 For in him [Jesus] dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

In scripture, the term "Godhead" is only used three times. And in all three instances it speaks of a one divine nature of deity; who is the supreme Spirit and creator of all things. Over time there has been many interpretations as to who the "Godhead" refers too. And almost all religious organizations claim that the main being of the Godhead, is the one God himself. The main scripture being...

Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

However, what has taken place over the years, beginning around 300-325 A.D., is that the term Godhead began to include three separate persons, two persons and even multiple persons in the Godhead; mainly the "Father, Son and Holy Ghost." Therefore, because of the traditions of men, the proper interpetation of the Godhead has been twisted into a meaning that bests fits man's idea and not what scripture actually teaches.

What is important about this Godhead study, is that your view of the Godhead can effect your broad view of scripture, and even your salvation. The reason this subject is vital, is because if your understanding is incorrect concerning who Jesus is, you could end up not being saved properly.

In this study am I going explain the meaning of the "Godhead" and what various other religions teach concerning it. The term "Trinity" is a teaching that says that the godhead is three persons; Father, Son and HolyGhost. And that all three "persons" are separate individual persons working independently of each other, but yet are one God. However, this study is not about the false Trinity doctrine but, revealing the true doctrine of the Godhead.

THE DEBATE

Since most all religions believe in one divine God, I will narrow down the "debate" to the very center of the Godhead controversy... and that is the "three persons" in the Godhead teaching. The reason this is controversial is because Monotheism is the belief that there is only one divine being, one spirit of God. And for a person to believe a "Trinitarian" view is to suggest that there are three persons (God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Ghost); which in the biblical view of monotheism; that divides God up into three distinct beings. Thus, the controversy of the Godhead.

In understanding the biblical meaning of the Godhead, there are several pieces of the puzzle you have to resolve in your mind such as; Is God and the Holy Spirit the same being or separate persons?; Is Jesus in the Godhead or is the Godhead in Jesus?; Was Jesus and the Holy Spirit, as separate beings with God before creation? and How does the Father, Son, Holy Ghost really relate to each other? There are several more I could illustrate here, but I will address some of those later.

DIFFERING VIEWS OF THE GODHEAD

JEWISH RELIGIONS

The Jews, which are the original people whom God spoke the commandment of Deut 6:4, believed and still believes in only one eternal, divine God whose name is JEHOVAH and/or YHWH (Yahweh). They believe that in scripture that God and the "Holy Spirit" are one and the same divine God; there is not two separate persons in a Godhead. They also do not believe that Jesus has come yet as their Messiah. So, there is no "Father, Son, Holy Ghost" in their doctrine.

ONENESS RELIGION

Oneness Pentecostal (Apostolic) believe, as do the Jews, that there is only one divine God. And they believe that the Holy Spirit and God are the same divine God, because Eph 4:4 says there is only one Spirit. However, they differ from the Jews in that they believe that Jesus has come as the Messiah and that God himself dwelt in the body of Jesus Christ (Col 2:9). They differ in their teachings from Trinitarians, in that there are not three separate person in a Godhead, but there is one God who manifested Himself in three different ways. There is a difference.

TRINITARIAN RELIGIONS (Catholics, Baptist & Charismatics etc.)

Trinitarians believe in one God as the two groups above. Where they differ, is that Trinitarians believe that there are three separate persons in the Godhead, being individuals and independent of each other, but yet, being in this triune aspect of being a part of one God. The teaching is based on the idea that Jesus and the Holy Spirit was with God before the worlds were created. Their main teaching is based on the language used in scripture when referring to the Father, Son and Holy Ghost and when they read of the Son talking to the Father. This teaching started some 300 years after the original church began on the day of Pentecost.

Also, there is a wide range of different views within Trinitarians. Some lean more towards three person, but not three separate Gods; while others also believe there are actually three separate co-equal or co-eternal Gods. Thus all the confusion with the Trinity.

JEHOVAH WITNESS RELIGION

The Jehovah Witness also only believe in one divine God and that his name is JEHOVAH. They do not believe in the trinity. They also do not believe the Holy Spirit is a second person, but believe it is just a force that comes from God himself. As far as Jesus Christ, they teach, because he was the firstborn of mankind that Jesus was born a man to pay the price of our sins. They do not see Jesus as part of a trinity nor as being God manifested in the flesh; he was just a man.

MORMON RELIGION

Mormons also believe in one God. They also teach that they don't believe the Trinity like Trinitarians do. However, in LDS belief, God the Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit are referred to as the "Godhead." They are three separate and distinct beings. They are "one God" collectively, meaning that they are united in spirit, mind and purpose. Jesus and the Father have physical "bodies of flesh and bone", while the Holy Spirit does not, though the Holy Spirit has a "spirit body". God the Father is understood to be the literal father of the spirits of humanity, as well as the literal father of both the spirit and physical body of Jesus. They also believe that there can be more than three Gods in the Godhead, yet they don't specifically say what they are.

ISLAM FAITH

The Islam faith teaches that there is only one God, much like the Jews, except God's name is Allah. They do not believe in the Trinity at all. And they do not believe that Jesus is God manifested in the flesh. As a matter of fact they look at Jesus as just a great prophet of God. They actually believe that Muhammad is the greatest prophet of them all (including Jesus) and they have built their faith based on Muhammad's teachings.

SCRIPTURES TO CONSIDER

1Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh [Jesus] , justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Joh 14:8-9 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. (9) Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

Eph 4:4-6 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; (5) One Lord, one faith, one baptism, (6) One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

1Jn 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

FUNDEMENTAL VIEW OF MONOTHEISM

WHAT IS MONOTHEISM?

The word "monotheism" simply means the belief in the existence of one divine God; in the oneness of God. Monotheism comes from the Greek words; mono, meaning alone, single, one; and theos, meaning God. There are really only a few religions who claim a "one God" viewpoint, they are; Judaism, Oneness Christianity and Islam. The fundamental teaching is summed up in this verse...

Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

THE FUNDAMENTAL CONCEPT OF ONE GOD

As we mentioned above, the three major religion's that believe in monotheism is based on ONE DIVINE concept of God. And as you read through the Old Testament scriptures, they are saturated with verses such as these...

Deu 4:35 Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him.

Isa 45:21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.

Isa 44:8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

If you were to interpret the concept of One God, just from the viewpoint of the Jews in the Old Testament, God's first people, you will never read where God is two or three persons. That is just a fundamental fact within Judaism. When the Old Testament was written; there was no knowledge of a Jesus, the New Testament or a church.

THE DANGER OF POLYTHEISM

The word Polytheism means, the doctrine of, or belief in more than one god or in many gods. The term comes from the Greek words poly ("many") and theoi ("gods"). Even though the "term" wasn't developed until the Roman Empire, the concept was widely known way back in time, even before the Law of Moses. It was prevalent among heathen nations, for they often would have multiple gods that they worshiped.

Within Judaism, if a Jew were to hold to the idea of multiple gods, they would often end up worshiping idols. And as you read the Old Testament, this often happened every time Israel fell away from worshiping the one true God. Their concept of God was strictly based on one divine Spirit of God, and to think anything else different would bring the judgement of God upon them; thus the danger in having the concept of multiple Gods.

Even though Polytheism is viewed as holding to the idea of multiple Gods, we have to be careful how we interpet the Godhead and that we do not take on the same viewpoint of Polytheism. Even though Trinitarians often get labeled as being Polytheism; I will not say that because of the various wide range of teachings within Trinitarians. However, I will say that some of the people within their religion do come very close to believing Polytheism if they say that the Godhead is three separate co-eternal Gods.

SPIRIT OF GOD VS HOLY SPIRIT

THE SPIRIT OF GOD
There is no controversy concerning the Spirit of God. Everyone pretty much believes that the "Spirit of God" is that one divine God and Father of all, as already stated earlier. So, I don't need to elaborate on this.

THE HOLY SPIRIT (HOLY GHOST) IN THE O.T.

In light of the "Trinitarian" viewpoint, now we have to look into the question; is the Holy Spirit a separate person in the Godhead and was the "Holy Spirit" there before creation. And since one of the questions relates to pre-creation time, we are just going to examine the Old Testament concept first. If you do a search for the term "Holy Ghost" in the Old Testament, you will not find one verse. And yet, the Apostles make reference to the Holy Ghost as God moving in the Old Testament.

The term "Holy Spirit" is only found in three verses of the entire Old Testament. The word "holy" in all three verses (Psa 51:11, Isa 63:10-11) means, to be set apart, sancified, consecrated. This word describes the very character of the Holy Spirit of God. Now, since Jews only acknowledged ONE DIVINE deity, we have to figure out if the "Holy Spirit" (Holy Ghost) is actually God Himself or a third person in a trinity. And since the Old Testament scriptures only mention three verses concerning the "holy Spirit (and none for holy ghost)," then we have to see who those three verses are really talking about.

Psa 51:11 Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me.

Isa 63:10-11 But they rebelled, and vexed his holy Spirit: therefore he was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them. (11) Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people, saying, Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock? where is he that put his holy Spirit within him?

As we can see above, all those scriptures are referring to the Holy Spirit of God Himself. They do not make any mention of a work of the "Holy Spirit" operating as a separate, individual, or co-equal deity. So, to interpret that the "Holy Spirit" is a co-independent deity is saying that there is two individual spirits of God that are at work independently... which isn't proven in the scripture.

THE HOLY SPIRIT (HOLY GHOST) IN THE N.T.

Now, lets figure out if the "Holy Spirit" (Holy Ghost) is a third person in a trinity within the New Testament scriptures. The term "Holy Spirit" itself is only in the new testament 4 times and "holy ghost" is mentioned 89 times. Because of space, I won't list them all here.

What we need to understand is that there is NOT ONE VERSE in the bible, where the Holy Spirit (Holy Ghost) is actually talking to God... NONE!!! And since we have already proven that the holy spirit and the holy ghost are the same one devine God, we then must understand exactly what is meant when scripture says that God gives us the Holy Ghost.

Do a search for the term "Holy Ghost" in scripture and you will see that it is a part of God himself that moves on people in the Old Testament, is a Comforter to believers, and is the Spirit of God that a believer can receive when they are saved. We also have to understand that the term "Holy Ghost" most always refers to how God works with humanity.

From a trinitarian viewpoint, this is where they get a third person in a trinity. But, that would mean when a believer is filled with the Holy Ghost, they would have God and the Holy Spirit working individually in them... which scripture doesn't teach. From a Oneness viewpoint, it isn't two indepentent Spirits working in a believer, but it's simply God giving us a portion of His own Spirit. Please understand, scripture says that ALL THE FULLNESS of God was in Christ... but that isn't so with us... we only get a portion of God's Spirit in our lives... a.k.a.. The Comforter!

THERE IS ONLY ONE SPIRIT

Since the Old and New Testaments only teach that there is only ONE divine spirit of God, and that God is the Holy Spirit; now we need to make a connection that God the Father is that one and the same Holy Spirit (Holy Ghost).

Eph 4:4-6 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; (5) One Lord, one faith, one baptism, (6) One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

Paul is emphatically stating that there is only ONE SPIRIT, and is referring to God himself. If looking at it from a Trinitarian viewpoint, you would have to break scriptural interpretation regarding the word "ONE." You can't have a second "Spirit" (Holy Spirit person in a trinity) if there is ONLY ONE SPIRIT OF GOD!

ONE GOD - MULTIPLE MANIFESTATIONS

GOD IS A SPIRIT

Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

First and foremost, God is an invisible Spirit that has no physical attributes or boundaries. He does not have flesh and bones (Luke 24:39) or a physical body (except Jesus - later), therefore we can not consider Him a person (he is a Spirit) ike Jesus is a person. He always was, even before there was any existence of any sky, planets or earth. He is not seen by anyone, unless He chooses to reveal (manifest) Himself in various forms. And even though God manifests Himself in various forms, no man can actually see Him directly as an invisible Spirit of God in all His Glory.

God is Omnipresent (om•ni•pres•ent - everywhere at all times), however, all other spirit-beings (angels, devils, satan) are limited in the spiritual body (being) they were created with, and confined to be only at one place at a time. And, because God is omnipresent, we cannot assume He is fused into nature or substances in our world such as trees, mountains and sky. Doing so would make His creation a part of His deity; thus we would be in danger of worshiping nature.

He is also Omniscient (om•nis•cient - all knowing) and Omnipotent (om•nip•o•tent - all powerful). And all these powerful attributes solely belong to God alone. He is also eternal, unchanging and holy. Because God is all-powerful and all-knowing, He can do anything He wants at any time He chooses. WHY DOES THE BIBLE DESCRIBE GOD IN HUMAN ATTRIBUTES?

All through scripture you will often read that God has eyes, hands, fingers, arms, legs, feet, heart and so on. Since God is a Spirit and doesn't have a physical body (except Jesus - later), you have to conclude that these physical descriptions are figurative. His "heart" speaks of His will and intellect, not an actual physical heart. So, in other words, scripture describes an invisible God in finite, human terms so we may understand Him better.

GOD MANIFESTING HIMSELF THROUGH THEOPHANIES

One way that God revealed Himself in the Old Testament was through, what is called a theophany, which is a visible manifestation of God. This was always a temporary physical form. This was the only way God would reveal Himself, even though He never let anyone see His full deity and glory. He often appeared through angels, men, burning bush, lightening, thunder, clouds, fire and other ways which I couldn't list them all. But, suffice to say; the ONE SPIRIT of God could do all of this at any time, all at once, any place and any way He chose.

ANGELS OF GOD

You will also read in many cases where "the angel of the Lord" appeared to someone. These manifestations could be actual angels being sent, or God manifesting Himself through the angel. For example; an angel of the Lord appeared to Moses in a burning bush. The voice that spoke to Moses was God Himself.

Exo 3:2-4 And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed. (3) And Moses said, I will now turn aside, and see this great sight, why the bush is not burnt. (4) And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here am I.

It is also important to note here, angels are created beings by God and are in spiritual-body form. Even though they are separate beings, yet, we see here how God simply took on an angelic form and revealed Himself that way to man.

So, as we look back over the subject of a Godhead, we can all agree that so far, we only have God and Angels in heaven, but God is still the only one in the Godhead. And since the "Holy Spirit" is God, there is no third person in a trinity.

It is VERY IMPORTANT you understand the facts in this section are the only things that will make the Godhead easier to understand going forward. As you have read, GOD IS A SPIRIT and it is totally feasible that God can do multiple manifestations at will, all at once and in any manner or any way He chooses. What we need to see here, is even though God has angel beings and theophany’s He works through, it doesn't divide Him into multiple beings. Outside of angels, we can't say that the fire, a man, a cloud and so forth are separate, co-equal individual beings... they are just multiple manifestations of the ONE SPIRIT OF GOD.

You may ask... well how can God do that? You have to remember, God is a Spirit and He has the ability to create anything in an instant. Look at creation, He simply spoke the word. So, it is no marvel that He can move or manifest Himself into any form. You will see why, it wasn't hard for God to overshadow Mary and create a flesh (the Son) for Himself to walk upon the earth in the man Jesus Christ; reconciling the world UNTO HIMSELF!

2Co 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

Earlier, I mentioned that scripture uses physical body parts to describe God in a figurative way. We will see later on how this same figurative concept is used when using the terms, Father, Son, Holy Ghost and Comforter. Remember, God uses human descriptions to tell us about who He is and how He works. Keep this in mind as we move forward.

THE PLURALITY OF GOD

THE TRINITARIAN VIEWPOINT

One of the main teachings of the Trinitarian doctrine is how the terms "God", "Let Us" and "Our" is used in the Old Testament. Their main point is that these terms prove that there is three persons in a Godhead because all these prove plurality (multiple) beings. Let’s look at this.

IN THE BEGINNING, GOD

Throughout scripture the word "God" is used over-and-over. The word God has two parts to its meaning; 1) 'ĕlôahh (el-o'-ah); a deity or the deity: - God. 2) ̂hı̂ym (heem'); gods in the ordinary sense of many. The complete meaning for "God" is... 'ĕlôhı̂ym (el-o-heem'); specifically used of the supreme God; deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative of angels, exceeding, great, mighty.

When you break this down, you first have to understand that the first part, "Elo" means ONE DEITY - GOD Himself; the majestic, exceeding, great God. And the second part, "heem" means the plural, general term to describe many or all gods (including heathen gods).

In the time of the writing of the Old Testament, there were many gods and idols. So, Moses is saying here that "God" (Elo) is the majestic, greatest God above all other gods (Heem) -- Eloheem (Elohim). The word God is denoting the supreme God above all other gods. Because Judaism did not believe in multiple Gods, it is evident that this is the correct interpretation of the word God. It does not prove or mean that God is multiple Gods, but instead it proves He is the one true God over all other gods (many - the plural use).

LET US MAKE MAN IN OUR IMAGE

With everything we have mentioned up to this point, that there is ONLY one Spirit of God and angels in heaven. We now have to tackle the terms "US" and "OUR" with a scriptural balance. What is meant when God says "Let Us?" Here are the only times in scripture where God speaks with these kinds of terms...

Gen 1:26-27 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. (27) So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Gen 3:22-23 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: (23) Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.

Gen 11:7-8 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech. (8) So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.

Isa 6:6-8 Then flew one of the seraphims unto me, having a live coal in his hand, which he had taken with the tongs from off the altar: (7) And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged. (8) Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me.

THE THREE MAIN VIEWPOINTS

There are three main interpretations on these verses, and they are...

1) There is a trinity that God is conferring with;
2) God was speaking to His angels;
3) God was speaking after the counsel of His own will as the majestic King of His entire kingdom.

In light of the ONE-SPIRIT-of-God truth, and since the above scriptures do not even mention any interaction with any individual entities, we cannot prove that these verses apply to a trinity; because when this was written, there was no trinity concept in the minds of Jews.

When you consider how Kings ran their kingdoms, you will often hear them speak for their entire Kingdom, which included all their people and servants. It was a common practice for a King to say something along these lines; "Be it know to all, let us make a decree that taxes be collected once a year."... and then the King would say; "I the King, have made a decree on this day as a commandment for all people!" We can see that the King said "let us make a decree", yet it was only Him that actually made the command.

Therefore, we can only conclude by the way God was speaking in those verses that God was either speaking to His angels or most importantly, speaking in terms of His entire Kingdom realm of heaven. You have to come to this conclusion because notice these points of action on God's part...

• Let us make man in our image.... God created man IN HIS OWN image.
• Let us go down... the Lord scattered them abroad.

So, it is clear, that even though He may of spoken to angels or spoke as the King of His entire realm of heaven, it is still Him that actually did what He said, even using angels to help him do His work. It was God who created man in His own image. And, as you read the scriptures above, it even sounds like God is speaking in the broad sense of His kingdom, spirit and knowledge; He is speaking as the Great King!

When you understand that there is only ONE SPIRIT of God that rules supreme, it is very easy to understand the Godhead! And when you eliminate the confusion of dividing God up into separate, individual persons in a Godhead, it's no wonder it becomes much easier to understand. We do not want to inject a meaning into these scriptures that is not there; that is twisting scripture. And as you can see, I have maintained the consistent theology of the ONE SPIRIT of God manifesting and speaking on the behalf of His Kingdom.

WHAT ARE THE 7 SPIRITS OF GOD?

Rev 1:4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;

Rev 3:1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

In the book of Revelation we find various terms relating to the, "seven Spirits" or "seven eyes" of God" before the throne. Since a lot of the book of Revelations can be figurative, we cannot look at this subject in a true physical sense (actual eyes of fire), but equivalent attributes in the spiritual realm.

I will not get into what these seven spirits of God are because scripture doesn't clearly say. However, as we look at the above scriptures is is clear they are figurative and most likey means that they are just the work of the Spirit going forth into the earth.

If you were to use the same "trinitarian' theology on the scripture in Rev 3:1, you would have to say that there are seven individual spirits of God. Because of the way it looks on the surface because it is indicating there are seven. Of course this would be ridiculous to say there are seven individual Spirits of God, because that would make the Godhead SEPTUPLETS. Is God divided into seven individual Spirits? No, neither is he divided into three individual persons. So, why apply a Trinitarian idea to three persons that isn't clearly taught in scripture? ONE SPIRIT - multiple manifestations.

GOD THE FATHER

SPIRIT HAS NOT FLESH AND BLOOD

Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

Many traditional views of God the Father is based on the misconception that God is a person (i.e. Trinty). However, this is not a biblical viewpoint that one should have because scripture never refers to the Spirit of God as being a person. Jesus is a person, but God (Holy Spirit) is not because a spirit being has no flesh and blood. Therefore to interpet "God the Father" as being a person is not biblically based terminolgy we should be using.

THE OLD TESTAMENT "FATHER"

Most of you are going to find this topic a little surprising in light of a Trinitarian viewpoint. As we know, the Trinitarians teach that there are three persons in the Godhead and that they are individual persons, yet are collectively one God.

Yet, in the Old Testament writings themselves, GOD DOES NOT refer to Himself as "Father." However, there are a few scriptures where a person ascribes that title to God; Isaiah said...

Isa 64:8 But now, O LORD, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand.

Then we have this verse that speaks of Jesus; and it says that He will be the "everlasting Father." We will be covering this later.

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

And then again, David prophesied about the Lord begetting a Son. But still, God doesn't refer to himself as a "Father" but gives David the voice to proclaim what He will be in the future.

Psa 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

THE NEW TESTAMENT "FATHER"

So, you may be wondering why doesn't God refer to Himself as "Father" in the Old Testament scriptures? That actually is a good question that a lot of people do not think about in light of Trinitarian teachings. What has changed from the Old Testament to the New Testament? The answer is quite simple... God is emphatically mentioned as a "Father" in the New Testament when He begets his son Jesus Christ.

Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

If you do a thorough search in the gospels (Mat-John), you will find that the term "Father" only comes from the mouth of Jesus and is only spoken of by John in light of the deity of Christ (I find that interesting). Then in Acts through the book of Revelation, the term "Father" is used by more people. We also need to understand, even though God didn't refer to himself as "Father" in the Old Testament, we do know now from a New Testament standpoint, that since God created everything He is the father of creation and such like.

So, what can we make of the term "Father" in spite of the fact that God had never referred to himself as "Father" in the Old Testament. Again the answer is simple... When God beget the Son (Jesus), the roles of Father and Son came into being. This relationship (roles) has now become the focal point of who God is and who Jesus is within a relationship union known as the deity of Christ (or incarnation). We will be discussing the relationship of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost later.

Since the New Testament has revealed the new viewpoint of God being a Father (of Jesus), God has now become more personable with mankind in the way God brings salvation to us through Jesus Christ. With this revelation of who the "Father" is, it is safe to say now, that the ONE GOD of the Old Testament, and all the way back before time, in His continuing glory, is in fact THE FATHER of creation and the FATHER of the flesh of Jesus!

Eph 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

The VIRGIN BIRTH CONTROVERSY

THE VIRGIN BIRTH

Luk 1:34-35 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man? (35) And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

In the gospels of Matthew and Luke is the record of the virgin birth. It is evident from the above passage that the "Holy Ghost" overshadowed Mary and she conceived the Son of God. So, looking at this verse at face value, it is evident that the Father of Jesus is the Holy Ghost!!

THE CONTROVERSY

In light of the Trinitarian viewpoint, we need to address the controversy of who is the Father of Jesus; The "Father" or the "Holy Ghost?" In the Trinitarian teachings, they teach that there are three persons in the Godhead that are individual persons; yet are collectively one God.

The problem you would then run into is, if the "Holy Ghost" (third person in trinity) is the Father of Jesus, then how can the Father (supreme God) be the Father of Jesus also? That would mean that there are two Fathers in light of the Trinitarian viewpoint, which at face value just cannot be!!

THE ANSWER IS VERY EASY

Remember in the Old Testament, there is only ONE SPIRIT of God and we proved that the "Holy Spirit" is the one-and-the-same Spirit of God. Now that we are in the New Testament, we are seeing the term "Holy Ghost" (Holy Spirit) operating in a miraculous fashion as a Father.

What we now have to look at is who is the Father of Jesus. The term "Son of God" in-of-itself denotes that Jesus is begotten (born) of God. So, this means that God, who is known in the New Testament as a "Father" is actually the Father of Jesus! And because the Holy Ghost is God, then the Father of Jesus is the Holy Ghost, because God and the Holy Ghost (Spirit) is the one-and-the-same GOD!! --- Not two persons, but just ONE!

WHO IS THE SON

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OLD TESTAMENT PROPHECY

There are so many prophecies of Jesus that I will not list them here. But, I want to key on two of the most popular and important prophecies of all...

Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

In both of the prophecies above, we need to REALLY PAY ATTENTION to who this "son" is going to be when he is born into the world. The reason we have to see this, is because these two scriptures are telling us about the incarnation of Christ. And the terms that point to the incarnation (God in Christ) are these; "Immanuel", "The mighty God" and "The everlasting Father."

Now, we have to sit-up and take notice of what these scriptures are telling us... that Jesus is going to be Immanuel (God with us); that Jesus is "The mighty God" and that Jesus is "The everlasting Father." So, basically it is saying that Jesus is going to be God the everlasting Father!!

DO WE HAVE TWO FATHERS NOW?

How can we have both "God the Father" and Jesus (the Son of God) being the Father at the same time? There can only be one Father?

From the Trinitarian viewpoint, they would say that the "names" stated above are just characteristics of God. And, I would agree that you can apply that to Jesus. But, because they say that there are three persons in the Godhead, Jesus can't be the Father because he is God the Son. So, in light of the trinity conception of Jesus having these characteristic, let's see how Oneness view this. From the Oneness viewpoint, because there is only ONE SPIRIT of God, and not three separate person's; that One Spirit (the Father), dwelt (incarnate) inside the human body (the son - the flesh) of Jesus Christ. The reason Oneness teachings can point to the above scripture as saying that Jesus was God, is because the term incarnate means; embodied in flesh or taking on flesh. So, all the "characteristics" that Trinitarians say are just a part of Jesus was actually the characteristics of God himself, because it was actually God who dwelt inside the flesh of Jesus.

• The Father (Holy Spirit) is the divine Spirit of God Himself
• The actual flesh of Jesus was not God, but it was the human vessel God dwelt in (manifested)

So, when a Oneness person says that Jesus is God, what they are really saying is that God the Father (Spirit) made (manifested - revealed) himself a human flesh (the Son - Jesus) to dwell in and walked upon the earth. Here is the basis of that thought...

Col 2:9 For in him [Jesus] dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

1 Tim 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Now, after concluding that God as a Father, begets his Son (the incarnate flesh) Jesus, we can clearly see that the reason why the prophet Isaiah said that the son (Jesus) was going to truly be Immanuel (God with us), "The mighty God" and "The everlasting Father" was because God walked on this earth in the body of the man, Christ Jesus.

JESUS SAYS HE IS THE FATHER

Joh 14:8-10 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. (9) Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? (10) Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

To fully understand the Godhead and deity of Christ, you HAVE TO GET THIS POINT... All through the gospels we see Jesus using the terms Father and Son interchangeably. He often said, "I and my Father are one." or "the Father that is in me." When God beget (through virgin birth) the son, God (the One Spirit) began a dialog of relationship roles... God became the Father and Jesus (the flesh of God) became the Son. And throughout the gospels Jesus is constantly speaking in these relationship roles. What you have to get is that the incarnate Christ was both God and Man at the same time. Therefore Jesus (as the man - flesh of God) often spoke of and to the Father (Spirit of God) that dwelt in him. I will touch on this concept in more detail later.

So, back to Jesus being the Father. Here, in this verse we clearly see that the disciples wanted Jesus to show them who the Father really was. And Jesus simply says... "He that has seen me, has seen the Father." Philip had the answer; he was looking at the Father when he was looking at Jesus!! The reason Jesus said that they were looking at the Father is because Jesus knew that the ONE SPIRIT of God, the Father, dwelt inside of His body. Jesus WAS GOD MANIFESTED in the flesh of the son Jesus Christ!!!

THE DUAL-NATURE OF CHRIST

If you read the gospels through the eyes of the God incarnate (God in Christ), it will be very easy to understand the scriptures that speak of "Father" (Spirit) vs "Son" (Flesh). When we read Jesus speaking or praying to the Father; the key is that you don't divide up the Godhead and say that there are three persons in the Godhead, but that there is ONLY ONE SPIRIT of God that made himself a flesh (Jesus the son) and lived inside that body and walked around the earth.

As God the Father (through Jesus), He did many miracles, walked on the water, raised the dead, caused storms to cease, created the world and forgave sin. As the Man (son -flesh), Jesus got weary, had to pray, was tempted, fasted and often spoke from his human side. He was truly God and Man at the same time!!! -- Not God the Father and God the Son... the term "God the Son" is not even in scripture. But we do say that Jesus was that one God because the ONE SPIRIT OF GOD dwelt INSIDE OF JESUS!!

It is no mystery when you view it in the Monotheistic (Oneness) viewpoint that God the Father (the ONE SPIRIT) manifested Himself in the flesh (Son) of Jesus Christ. --- ONE SPIRIT -- ONE FLESH! That's it! Easy to understand!! That is why we can say that Jesus is the Father.... You have to look at the deity (God) side of Jesus... that is the Father - the Son is the flesh side.

This is the same concept as "God & Multiple Manifestations" (above) where God can manifest himself in many different ways, but still remain that ONE TRUE SPIRIT of God!

1Jn 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

THE WORD WAS GOD

John 1:1-3 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (2) The same was in the beginning with God. (3) All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that was made.

John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

TRINITARIAN VIEWPOINT

In the Trinitarian viewpoint, they teach that Jesus was the second person in the trinity because Jesus was there in the beginning with God. They use the scripture below as their main proof... John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

ONENESS VIEWPOINT

The Oneness viewpoint teaches that the "Son" (the actual flesh) was not at the beginning because the Father (Spirit of God) beget the Son (the flesh). However, they do teach that Jesus was the "Word" with, and was God in the beginning using John 1:1, 14 as their main proof.

WHAT DOES "WORD" MEAN IN JOHN 1:1?

The actual meaning of "WORD" means; logos (log'-os); something said (including the thought); also reasoning (the mental faculty) or motive; the Divine Expression (that is, Christ):

Trinitarians claim that Jesus, being the second person of the Godhead was actually there in the presence of God as an independent person, as was the "Holy Spirit" was present as the third person. Since we have already concluded in an earlier study that the Spirit of God is the Holy Spirit, that cancels out a Trinitarian viewpoint altogether. So, now we must try to understand how was Jesus there at the beginning... because He really was there!!!

The "WORD" in John 1:1 does not infer the meaning to be a second person. But, instead it is saying that the "WORD" is THOUGHT, REASONING, EXPRESSION of Christ!! So, it is obvious that the THOUGHT and REASONING was WITH GOD, in God's mind and was God!

You would read (replacing "Word" with the greek meaning) John 1:1 like this...

John 1:1 In the beginning was the THOUGHT, and the REASONING was with God, and the DIVINE EXPRESSION OF CHRIST was God.

God's thoughts are not a second person in a trinity. You cannot separate God's thinking from His being. Now, let’s see another important point.

THE "WORD" (GOD) IS JESUS

John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Now it is very clear that the above scripture is saying that the Almighty God, His thoughts, and His reasoning became the expression of Christ... in other words; God beget a Son (flesh) and manifested (revealed) Himself to us in the actual body of Jesus Christ, the Son! ... God (Word - Thought - Jesus -) was made Flesh!

THE WORLD WAS MADE BY HIM

In John 1:3 (see above), it says that in Him (the Word - the Thought - God) created the world. We know that the actual flesh of Jesus did not create the world, but yet we read this...

John 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

So, how can Jesus create the world if He wasn't even born yet? Was there two creators? This is a good question, and the answer is really quite simple. In the beginning, Jesus (as the THOUGHT of God) was actually God Himself.

Let me try to put it into a concept that you should understand...

We have person who is sitting down thinking and planning what he is going to be in the future. He sees himself as the president of a country. He plans out his life ahead of time and how he will reveal himself to the world. Then he works to fulfill that plan. At an appointed time, he reveals himself and runs for office. He then wins and becomes the president.

To paraphrase... This ONE man saw himself as president in his own mind, planned, brought about (created) and revealed himself in time. Not only was he ONE man, but, became what he envisioned himself to be.

God, in His thoughts and plans envisioned Himself as Jesus manifesting Himself to the world, then created the world and brought everything to pass... but He was still the one-and-the-same Spirit of God! This is not rocket science... if you don't divide God up into three separate persons, then it is very easy to understand. In God's mind, He saw Himself as Jesus; that is why Jesus created everything... because Jesus (the Word) was in God's mind and was God, and He spoke the word that created life as we know it.

God has done everything with the mind-set that He is Jesus. And even though Jesus was an actual human being, it was the fullness of God that dwelt in that body. That is why the Oneness viewpoint can easily say that Jesus was God... God manifested (revealed) in the flesh of Jesus... God made himself a flesh to walk upon the world!!

FATHER-SON-HOLY GHOST

THE CONFUSION

There are many reasons the Trinity is confusing, but the glaring problem with that teaching is the concept of three persons that are independent, yet somehow are all one God. The major concern is that scripture itself doesn't teach anything about three persons in a Trinity.

POINTS TO CONSIDER

Before I get into the roles of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost, we have to make some points first.

• Earlier, we proved that the "Holy Spirit" (or Holy Ghost) is in fact the one-and-the-same Spirit of God. Therefore the "Holy Spirit" being a "third person" in a trinity is dis-qualified; thus the Trinity is also dis-qualified as being biblical. Nowhere in scripture do we read about the "Holy Spirit" being a separate spirit (or person) talking to God.
• Nowhere in scripture are the terms "God the Son" or "God The Holy Ghost." Therefore, scripture says nothing about a second or third person as being a separate person.
• Earlier we pointed out that God can manifest himself in many ways, yet be the one-and-the-same God. So, why is it so hard to believe, that there is just One God who can do many things at once?

THE ROLES AND RELATIONSHIPS OF GOD

As we look into the Oneness of God, the greatest revelation you will receive is the understanding of who God is and how He operates! And to get this revelation, it has to be shown to you by God just like it was revealed to Peter, John & Paul. And that revelation will include how the Father, Son and Holy Ghost operate as one being towards us.

To help you understand this revelation, you will have to see how the Father, Son and Holy Ghost is manifested to us by God Himself. God speaks to us in terms that helps us understand who He is and he chose to speak to us in Father, Son and Holy Ghost roles and relationships.

THE FATHER (of Creation)

Remember earlier, we pointed out that God did not refer to Himself as a Father in the Old Testament. God became a Father when He beget Jesus Christ. The Spirit of God is the Father of Creation, the Father of the flesh of Jesus and the Father of those who are born again.

When you read in the New Testament that God the Father is speaking, spoken to, or referenced, you have to keep in mind that all interactions with the Father are with the One divine Spirit of God.

THE SON (in Redemption)

Since we have already proved that Jesus (as The WORD) was with God in the beginning, because in God's mind he was planning on revealing himself as Jesus; we have to really see the distinction between the plan of Jesus existing in God's mind and the actual birth (begetting) of the Son of God. When Jesus was physically born, he became a "Son of God" and therefore took on him a form of a servant, made in the likeness of man.

Jesus, as a Son, was truly a real human being. And his role was to die and save mankind from sin. However, the relationship was a dynamic dual nature. Fused together was the fullness of God's Spirit inside him and his human nature. Jesus was God manifested in the flesh... God dwelt inside of that flesh. So, with that union, two roles and two relationships interacted within the man Christ Jesus. The Spirit of God that dwelt in Him was the Father, and of course Jesus was the Son, doing the Spirit of God's will. That is why in the New Testament, people get confused by the conversation between God the Father and Jesus the Son. And that is why people think there are two (three) persons. When in actuality you have the Divine Spirit of God talking with the Son (human side) and visa-versa. That is why we read Jesus praying to the Father. The flesh (Son) had to pray to the Spirit (Father). It is really that simple!

THE HOLY GHOST (in Regeneration and Administration)

Now, since we already proved that the Spirit of God and the Holy Ghost is the one-and-the-same God, now we have to see what role and what relationship does the Holy Ghost play in the gospels.

2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

The "Spirit of God" and "Holy Ghost" (seeing they are the same) is not new to the New Testament. God often times spake to men in dreams, visions, through angels or directly to men. God would often move on or through men to accomplish His will. The Holy Ghost is not another person, but THE GOD working in the lives of them that believe in Him!

Here are some various ways God moved in the lives of people...

• The Spirit descended on Jesus as a dove
• The Holy Ghost spake
• The Holy Ghost fell on believers at Pentecost

The Holy Ghost, which is God, moved in people’s lives in many ways. You would see the relationship of the Holy Ghost as a Comforter, Leads into all truth, gives power to a believer and cleanses a person through the sanctification process.

On the day of Pentecost, believers were filled with the Spirit of God. You could look at the Holy Ghost as God giving a part of himself to us and in us when we are filled with the Holy Ghost. We receive a part of that one-and-the-same Spirit of God when we are born of the Spirit!

KEY SCRIPTURES

Take a look at these scriptures and you will see the relationship of the Father (Spirit), Son (Flesh) and Holy Ghost (Comforter - Spirit). You will see the dual nature of Christ, not two persons. One God, One Flesh = Jesus is both God and Man!!

Matthew 11:27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

John 14:16-18 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; (17) Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. (18) I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

When you understand that there is only ONE Spirit of God that manifests Himself in many ways, it is very easy to see the roles and relationships between the Father, Son & Holy Ghost. It isn't three persons speaking to each other, it is a Father, who beget a Son, who died and the Holy Ghost works with, and in mankind to perfect a person. If you were really to boil this down to numbers (according to Oneness concept), There is ONLY God (which is the Holy Ghost) and a Son (which is Jesus)... so where are there 3 independent persons??

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